Why You Should Never Buy Liquid Hydroponic Gardening Nutrients


Alright! This is John Kohler with growingyourgreens.com
with another exciting episode for you. Today we’re talking about organic fertilizers in
plastic bottles. Now, these are all the fertilizers that I actually own. They are from my place
here before I got -picked them at Hydro shows and actually, I haven’t used them in years.
I don’t know if they’re still good. But anyway, today were going to talk about, maybe
some of the negative consequences of using fertilizers in plastic jugs. I’ve got special
guest Josh Cunning’s of the Boogie Brew Company to talk to you guys about it because, he’s
a plastic Nazi. Josh: Actually my dad is a plastic Nazi. He
raised me in an environment in England here he was like ‘there’s never going to be any
plastic bottles of any kind in this home’. It was an interesting world to grow up in,
you know, long before plastic bottles had become this ubiquitous in our society, my
father was raising me as an anti-plastic Nazi; and my friends would come over to my house
and they’d be scared like, ‘do I have anything on me that your dad’s going to take? He’s
going to confiscate?’ So, that was an interesting time back in England. But I used to use a
lot of plastic jugged products myself when I first started growing. I subscribed to the
whole notion of walking into a grow store and being seduced by a whole sea of sexy plastic
jugs, and their pretty labels with all their promises of plant glory. And over the years
I found myself accumulating, just mountains of these plastic jugs, in my garage, in my
recycling yard, and it sure would fleece my pocketbook, you know? And I was never sure
which products are really working, which ones are truly making marked differences, and I
would just keep going back and ‘feed me more, what’s the latest and greatest magic potion?’
Always in a plastic jug, always in a liquid-based variant of ideally an organic fertilizer.
I hate to admit it but back when I first started, I was not even using organic fertilizers.
So, it was a gradual progression for me and for Boogie Brew, away from liquid based fertilizers
and plastic jugs, and now to the point where we embrace a zero bottle nutrient program
that you can do yourself to grow like a pro, John. There’s no need for any of this stuff.
First of all let me tell your viewers, when you buy this stuff, you’re subconsciously
subscribing to the notion of getting your pocketbook fleeced, and paying for nothing.
And this is a huge corporate scam. John: But Josh this stuff really works!
Josh: Whether it works or whether it doesn’t work, the point is, if you’re expending a
huge amount of resources to the planet, to get this stuff to your garden, all right?
It’s absolutely ludicrous. And you’re paying for water, and you’re paying for the carbon
footprint, you paying for the transportation costs of it. A gallon of water weighs 8 pounds
John, a 5 gallon jug weighs 40 pounds. Now, when I see these trucks pull up, either to
the grow stores, or worse yet, in corporate America’s parking lot, you know, the Targets,
and the Office Depots, and the Safeways of this world, and pallet and after pallet after
pallet, of single use, plastic, jugged liquids; either water, or other refreshments, all in
plastic jugs. And a whole, you know, truck full of this stuff. It makes you stop and
wonder ‘what in the hell are we doing?’ And what we’re doing is making ourselves economic
slaves to a massive corporate scam, John, that’s being perpetrated on this country for
decades now. And there was a time, and those of us old enough can remember it, when you
would walk into a grocery store and it wasn’t just a sea of plastic jugs. Nowadays, what
is the number one item you see leaving the shopping markets? Leaving the stores of America?
Look at the grocery carts around you, next time you go shopping. And it doesn’t matter
where it’s at, it can be at the Costco, it can be at a Target, at a Walmart, at a Safeway,
or even a health food store, a Whole Foods, and what’s the number one item you see leaving
those stores in the shopping carts? Indeed – plastic water bottles. The number one item.
And this here actually is agave nectar, don’t worry okay? But I made it look like oil to
replicate how much oil goes into one little plastic bottle of drinking water.
John: No way that much? Josh: Yes! About 1/5 of it.
John: But some of the plastic bottles use less, because they’re better designed.
Josh: Some of them are using less material?! I mean come on give me a break man! I mean
up to 20% of each plastic bottle, when you buy it, all right?-
John: -That much oil? Josh: Yes! Yes! I watched this — there’s
a wonderful man out there, I strongly recommend those of you who are parent’s and who have
any influence or clout in the schools that your elementary age kids are going to, to
request this dude, his name is Mr Eco, -incredibly cheesy, incredibly dorky, but absolutely adorable,
and here’s the thing, he’s making an impression on the next generation. The generation that
are going to ask us ‘What were you thinking? How did you allow this to happen?’ And we
did. We’ve quietly accepted it. Whether it was myself back at the end of the 90s, back
when I decided when I was going to go be a grower and going to the grow stores, and buying
all this stuff; or even myself buying plastic bottled water. And you know, you see all these
famous multimillionaire sportsmen, sitting around talking about their latest sports victory,
whether it’s a tennis star, or Tour de France bicycle racer, and they’re sitting there with
their plastic water bottle, in the conference room, -or even the United Nations, who we
trust, to steer this world to a better future, and they’re all sitting there with their requisite
plastic bottles. We have become sheeple absolutely seduced by this plastic nightmare, which is
ubiquitous, and upon us all. Do you know John? Back in the 70s, back in the Soviet era, they
were producing one new nuclear powered submarine per week I believe, so they had a lot of submarines
all over the world, and the Soviets decided that, -they noticed that there was plastic
everywhere, and this is back in the 70s, and they took water samples of the deepest, most
remote water kingdoms on this earth, underneath the Arctic, underneath the Marianas Trench
in the Pacific , in the most remote oceanic regions of the world, do you know John, there
wasn’t one sample of ocean water that the Soviets tested back then that didn’t have
millions of microscopically sized plastic particles floating in it? And do you know
that we’ve become a sterile human race? We’re rapidly becoming more and more sterile, and
one of the number one culprits besides, maybe GMO foods, -we don’t want to talk about that
right now, let’s save that for another rant, is indeed the plasticization of the male reproductive
system, of the female reproductive system, and the way the cancer rate keeps — do you
think that maybe all this plastic that’s in our environment now maybe has something to
do with it? I mean how did we allow this to happen? This is disgusting, and this has got
to stop. And it’s as easy as saying ‘no, I’m not going to do this’. I mean, look
at these older water stations. Back in the 70s they were pretty busy, it was a decent
business. You could set of in the 70s and as recently as the mid-80s, a water vending
route, and all those water machines, most of them sit idle, you know? It’s very rare
when I go to the one across the street at the Raleigh’s, near where we have or Boogie
home, that there is someone in front of me filling it up. But, all the time they’re coming
out of there with their plastic bottles, and when I see these whole pallets and pallets
of them, all situated along the sidewalk, it absolutely makes me cringe. And you have
to also think about not just the plastic that went into manufacturing this little single
use dose of convenience, for God’s sake, but you also have to consider the amount of energy
that is expired in transporting this stuff, and the axles of these trucks, and the wear
and tear that they then inflict. And look how many trucks are going down the road, and
the wear and tear that’s been inflicted on our roads, and then more oil has to be used
for new roads to be built and so on. All to transport these liquids everywhere. These
single use liquids that we one-time consume for the purpose of gratification. I have no
idea what the number of bottles per human in or lifetime now is averaging, and what
it’s going to be. This is all like a brand-new experiment in society for the last 30, 40
years, but it’s got to be in the hundreds of thousands per human being, and when you
multiply that by tens and hundreds of millions of us, it becomes absolutely staggering, the
proportion, and how we can allow this to go on. And you know these grow stores, I mean
I have a customer who, he’s a manager of a grow store in the islands in Hawaii, and he
himself purchases a lot of Boogie Products, but his boss who’s the owner of the store,
doesn’t want them featured in the store because he’s nervous that all these dried cost-effective
ingredients are going to replace two thirds of the plastic jugged miracle liquids that
I’m selling, and the associated profit margins. The way we have placed profit in front of
people, profit in front of health, this is getting to the point folks, where we can’t
afford to just sit around and be complacent anymore. And you should tell everyone you
know about this video, and about the absurdity of the cost of what you’re getting your pocketbooks
fleeced, and then they inflict on the environment, and it’s just people who buy this stuff, -we
should feel like idiots; we should feel that criminals. Because that’s what it is, it is
a criminal and treasonous act to the environment, to our Mother Earth. Like Mr Eco says: take
your hands, hold them to your heart, these are the hands you hold the world in, hold
it close to your heart because you love the world. If you love the world, get off plastic
jugs now! John: Wow. I’m not quite yet ready to get
off plastic jugs entirely, but let me tell you guys, I’ve minimized my use and, I consume
more than Josh, but a lot less than most people. So as much as Josh got you riled up, I’m here
to share with you guys some solutions because I want you guys to be able to change effectively.
So number one: install a good water filtration system in your home. There’s nothing wrong
with the water coming into your house as long as it’s municipal water, there’s just some
things that municipality put in that you want to take out.
Josh: Or John, or just go and use one of those water vending machines, I mean that’s actually
– John: -but then you still got to use a plastic
bottle man! Josh: You can get glass ones. You can get
glass ones. That is a good point. It ends up being a lower cost per gallon than, you
know, you have to spend a lot of money on a home-based system to end up getting it down
to less than $.35 a gallon, which is the going rate for these excellent quality water vending
machines. Why would you need to spend more than $.35 a gallon? I mean why would you subject
yourself? My neighbors, I set them up with a water crock, and out of habit, it took them
a full six months before they weaned themselves off the convenience of buying these flats
of the liquid water bottle; but they’ve done it, and they’re saving water too, as well
as the environment. It’s such a no-brainer John: Yeah so I mean also, I want to encourage
you guys, if you’re not already, to get off things like such as soda in single use plastic
bottles right? Instead go out to your garden, pick your greens, pick your fruits, and juice
them up, and drink fresh juice that you make yourself with living water. Your health is
going to thank you and so will the environment. Next Josh, I want to really get into how somebody
can get away from using some of the chemical and some of the water based fertilizers that
are out there. So for example, you know, we got the ‘Grow More Seaweed Extract Liquefied
Organic Kelp’. Josh: Well yeah, I mean exactly, and so ‘oh
dude, it’s liquefied bro, well therefore it must be better right?’ They’re actually
selling that, that’s a sales point, like ‘oh this is being liquefied’. So, liquefied means,
they’re profit margins’ skyrocketed, and you’re getting ripped off. You can do 1/8 teaspoon
per gallon of the seaweed extract, like the Down to Earth brand one, the maxi crop, you
can find the same stuff that they then reconstitute with water. Everywhere this stuff is available,
I mean not just from Boogie Brew, but at your local grow supplies store. All you have to
do is ask for it. Vote with your dollars. Say, ‘wait a minute, if I buy this, I know
I’m getting fleeced. Sell me the dried version of this’. Same with humic acid. You can
get the water-soluble concentrated, dehydrated, humic acid crystals. Same with the fish protein,
the fish hydrolysate, again, we have like the pure pro-alpha fish, pure protein, bad
fish, those are the names of those products but they’re all -the key ingredient is a
water-soluble soluble dehydrated enzymatically digested fish hydrolysate powder. It’s cleaner,
it’s less stinky, less nasty to handle and use, than the liquid version. Maybe it doesn’t,
in a big sexy plastic jug with a big label on it, but, what it does come in is asked
sensibly priced ecologically, biodegradably packaged envelope that you then can reconstitute
in your own plastic container, with water, usually for a price of pennies per gallon.
I mean, that’s where the economy of our Boogie Brew compost tea comes into play. Just a small
3 pound pack which your typical grow store retails for $35, that makes 50 gallons. Already
you’re down to $.75 a gallon, or less, of a world-class nutrient rich compost tea. Pennies
per gallon by the time you dilute it. And again, we wanted to sell value, we want to
sell honesty. When you buy something in dried form and activate it yourself for pennies
per gallon, you’re getting an honest product. When you buy something in liquid form, you’re
saying to the manufacturer, you’re authorizing them to fleece you. You’re saying ‘hey,
I want to be a willing sheeple, a victim of the system’. Why would you make yourself
an economic slave to that system? It’s time for this madness to stop. And what I would
love to see is for the shelves of all these grow stores to just sit there idle with this
stuff. And it’s already happening right here in Northern California John, and here’s
why, because the growers –it’s become such a competitive grow market with the legalization
that’s sweeping especially the West Coast, you know, I’m talking about cannabis, and
obviously, the profits from growing cannabis is what then dictated the massive price margins
on these products. But it doesn’t have to just be cannabis that’s also dictating these
rip-off priced liquid products. It’s the same when you go into your average Lowe’s or Home
Depot, and a whole sea of plastic jugged products sitting there, all in liquid form, and all
ridiculous carbon footprint of transportation costs, and all ridiculous profit margins.
So, take for example like this vegan mix, which is one of my favorite all around top
dressing tonics made by Down to Earth, this is the most expensive, like least cost effective
box, and it’s like full retail for $8.99 for a 6 pound box. And this has, all organic of
course, ingredients. It’s got the soybean meal, camelina meal, which is a mustard flower
from India that they’re using to substitute the need for as much soy, because organic
soy is becoming so expensive. Alfalfa meal, rock phosphate, langbeinite, volcanic ash,
green sand, and kelp meal. And then 5% humic acids derived from leonardite; all in a sensibly
priced -look at this, biodegradably packaged, dried powdered form. You know you’re getting
good value when you buy this for $8 versus paying for a plastic jug, you know, I’ve seen
some of these so-called liquid miracle nutrients for as much as $150 for a 5 gallon jug of
this chemical crap that is mostly water anyway, that you’re paying for out of your rear end.
It’s absolutely absurd. So you can take this product, pennies per plan cost, scratch it
in as an organic top dressing, and then activate these pennies per plant cost top dressing
powder that again was already a good deal to begin with, and then activate it with our
pennies per gallon Boogie Brew compost tea, and do it all so affordably, and laugh at
all your grow bros with their collection, their smorgasbord. Every grower, including
myself back in the day, that I knew, had a whole mountain of this stuff. Always turning
around, going back to the grow store, and buying yet another $60 priced miracle jug,
and then wondering, scratching my head and wondering, which of these actually worked.
It’s absolutely ridiculous. Time to stop! Time to end this madness! And the plastic
liquid madness! Whether it’s single use water or sodas, or expensive grow products, if it
comes in plastic, in a water base, you’re getting ripped off, and worse, -maybe you
want to be ripped off, I don’t want to be ripped off you know. I want maximum bang for
my book. I bust my ass to make the dollars I make, you know, but even if you do want
to get ripped off, think of the cost to the environment. Think of what the cost to create
these stuff. These disgusting plastic jugs. And they never get fully recycled. I mean
yes, they smash them down and make things like recycled buckets or make our roads out
of it, but really, don’t you think we should minimize the manufacturing of this stuff to
begin with? This has just become so ubiquitous. That’s what kills me John. It’s just become
– it’s what infuriates me. That’s why I can’t shut up about this, you know? This is insane.
There will be a future generation, those kids, the ones that are watching Mr Eco in the schools,
scratching their heads going ‘what were our parent’s thinking? Why did they allow
this in the first place?’ John: Yeah I mean, Josh is probably to one
extreme, and standard Americans to the other, using all kinds of plastic; Josh uses virtually
[not] any plastic. Josh: No there’s nothing extreme about not
wanting to use this stuff. Here’s what’s extreme, what’s extreme is using as much as 2, 3 ounces
of oil, to create a 16 ounce water bottle which gets drunk in 30 seconds flat, and then
thrown away. That’s what’s extreme. There is nothing extreme about demanding the end
of this stuff John. Nothing whatsoever. John: So basically, what I want you guys to
do, I don’t know if you guys will be as normal as Josh and not want plastic anymore in your
life, you know, a lot of people may not be that into it. I mean, I agree with Josh on
many levels but I’m not going to take my life to that extreme and inconvenience myself in
certain situations, although I use glass reusable water bottles, and have a stainless steel
water bottle, and I teach you guys a gardening method that pretty much does not rely on plastic
water-based nutrients, although there are some that I use still sometimes, that Josh
doesn’t like. But you know, life is not about all or nothing right? I want you guys to take
steps in the right direction and reduce the amount of plastic, because I know you guys
can do that. Whether that means using a 5 gallon reusable jug to buy filtered water
to get that out. Whether that means stop buying soda. Whether that means reducing the amount
of water-soluble nutrients you’re buying in plastic jugs that already have been hydrated,
so you’re paying for 70 ounces of water that’s OPW – other people’s water, instead of OPP.
You guys can start making a difference today. So want you guys right now to post down below
this video to let Josh know what you’re going to do to reduce the amount of plastic that
you are using so he can sleep better at night, because obviously he’s quite upset about this.
Josh: I want you to join me with this, we’ve got to end the use of plastic. I mean plastic,
it’s such a miraculous substance, think about it, you know. The miracle of creating this
from a raw oil product to begin with, and something that yes, admittedly, can be very,
very, handy. Imagine if we had approached this to begin with as this valuable treasure
that’s to be utilized in true life – remember those stupid ads in the 90s? ‘Plastic makes
it possible, plastic saves lives.’ Showing these babies in incubators, all right, now
there’s a sane use of plastic. I life and death situation. Keeping a human baby I live
in a plastic cocoon. Or even maybe using recycled plastic for greenhouses, all right. But the
single-use plastic era has the end. Think about all the creatures that are out there
in the oceans that are regurgitating this stuff. You’ve seen all the footage in the
ocean movies where they show this stuff in the intestines of the fish itself. There’s
not a single fish out there in the oceans that hasn’t already had its organs plasticized.
And every creature on earth has arguably been plasticized. And this plastic era, this plastic
age, it’s got to stop. Please, get with me on this and be just as vocal and passionate
about it as I am because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and it’s just time to
end the madness of plastic, period, to absolutely minimize its use to less than 1% of what’s
we currently use it at; to treat it as something that we always should have treated it as – a
volatile and potentially very dangerous substance that’s now plasticizing the organs of every
man woman and creature on this planet, and to guide its use, very, very, carefully to
control the amount that’s finally used in or society. It should be, like I said, 1%
of what we’re using right now. Come on. There is no need for people to be loading
up their shopping carts with yet more plastic bottles. It’s absolutely absurd.
John: All right, so what I’m going to do for you guys is actually, I’ll put a link down
below. It’s a really good documentary on plastic. You know, I have friends who have actually
watched that video and then they basically go plastic free or as plastic free as they
can. It’s good to know about this kind of stuff, and I want to include this kind of
stuff in with my show because it’s all about the environment, and it has to do directly
with gardening because a lot of gardeners out there, -I know you guys are out there,
-buy stuff in plastic jugs and this does not need to happen. If you want solutions, get
a hold of Josh and he’ll tell you how to grow without the plastic jugs successfully.
Josh: Tea and top dressings. All you need is a world-class compost tea recipe and the
sensibly priced top dressing. Zero bottle. Grow like a pro. Zero plastic nutrients. Zero
plastic usage ever in your garden. You never need to have used a single plastic jug of
anything. And I will guaran-damn-tee it, the results will blow your mind.
John: Awesome Josh. So yeah I want to get going here. We’ve been on a rant so long.
I want to let you guys know, I want you guys to vote with your mouse button right now,
click the thumbs up if you like to hear Josh’s rants, and click the thumbs down if I should
never have one of his crazy rants again. I appreciate Josh a lot and I agree with him
that we need to reduce the plastic. He comes on at bit strong-
Josh: -Banish it. You’ve got to banish it completely. There’s no room for forgiveness
here. Take no prisoners! Banish plastic, period. Treat ourselves like criminals if we find
ourselves having to buy one unnecessary plastic jug. I’m serious. It’s time to change. We
are running out of time. It’s getting crazy! John: All right Josh, well I want to thank
you for having you on the show today and thanks for being here and sharing with my viewers
the perils of plastic! Once again my name is John Kohler, and I’m going to get back
to gardening with growing your greens.com. We’ll see you next time and until then, remember,
‘Keep on Growing!’